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Tell us your "Late B" story
01-21-2011, 08:47 PM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2011 08:24 PM by MAGNUM GT XS22L9R.)
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(MAG) Tell us your "Late B" story
As a lot of you know I'm a Late B guy (1975-1979), the Magnum's
are my thing. I'd love to here your story about what got you into
your Late B and why you like these cars? The thing is the more we
tell others about these cars the more we will generate interest for
them. The more interest, the more there worth in the long run. Most
others know nothing of these cars and only know them as the gas
crunch cars that were gas guzzlers of there time.

Look at the so called muscle cars from (1972-1974)era. Back in
the day we called them the wanna be muscle cars and figured they
would never be worth anything. Now many are bringing more that
there new prices?!

The only differents in those cars and the late B's are that the (72-74)
cars looked like the muscle cars of the muscle car era?! These cars
(75-79) are unique in there designs and there B bodies but, with newer
and in many cases better designed parts. I know of many of those early
B guys that have parted out high end Magnums, Chargers and Cordobas
for there better and stronger parts for there cars.

I know that when I drive my Magnum GT down the street, Eyes start
popping up to see it. Not sure how many times my Magnum was called
a Monte Carlo? Laugh This tells me a lot, this is why these cars are not going
up in value. There's no demand for them due to the lack of knowledge of
them.
P.S. had one guy say my Magnum was the coolest looking Monte carlo he
had ever seen?! Laugh

Myths & Facts:
Myth - The late B body cars are not as well built as the earlier cars
Fact - The later B's are better built newer designed cars that were not part
of the 80's modo to build them cheaper and smaller to save gas mileage.
That's why they were ended not because they were badly built!


Myth - The late B cars have no horse power
Fact - The later B's decreased in there horse powers just as the cars before
them but, they still were some of the same engines. (440/400/360/318's) and
could be swapped and modified, same as the earlier cars. I have raced my stock
late B cars with some of the earlier B's and have won. How's that possible if this is
true?


Check this out:
Something you might have not known: Compare horsepower with the early cars!
Early mopars were rated as gross hp vs the late mopars were rated as net hp.

While the late sixties early seventies were a golden age of horsepower compared
to the late seventies or early eighties, the differences weren't quite as vast as they
appear at first. A '67 Impala with the 396, rated 325 gross horsepower, probably
had something like 220 net horsepower in pure stock form.


SO, if there's someone trying to tell you your Late B is not as good as there car.
Remember what you have read here and feel confident that the're mostly or are
all wrong about what they know.

Here's my modo.
Go with this: I like my (Your car here) because I like it! Not because I'm trying to
be better than you, Not because it's going to be worth more than yours, Not
because it's faster or quicker, Not because it's the best car in the world!!! Because
I like my (Your car here)!!! If you can't handle it, GET OVER IT! Laugh

So please tell your story and "Edgimicate" those who really know nothing about these
Forgotten B's.

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01-22-2011, 04:27 PM
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RE: Tell us your "Late B" story
when i brought my first magnum wasn't even looking one just looking for any old rwd 2 door mopar, i found my it was price right and turn out i really like it rode great, good looking car but most people don't know what it is, mistake a lot for a monte carlo, i love having smething different than everyone else . i surprized how many different interior are in these car.

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01-25-2011, 12:57 AM
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Heres my late B story, although I can feel a rant coming on... I bought my 76 Cordoba from a guy I knew at work. He's a mechanic and I was asking him if he knew of anybody who was selling a small block Mopar engine and tranny as I wanted to swap-out the drivetrain in my 86 RamCharger. He told me that he had a 76 Cordoba that he didn't use anymore and that he would sell it to me for $700. I tried and tried to talk him down, but he stayed firm. I placed an ad locally to sell my prized 454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk and soon enough had the dough. I paid the man, changed the fluids and did the usual OLD-CAR-THATS-BEEN-SITTING-FERAWHILE routine and drove it home. I had the motor and trans ready for the cherry-picker when I got an offer on the RamCharger that I couldn't pass up. Next thing I know I've got a Cordoba in my 3rd stall and not a clue what to do with it. It didn't take too many late night beer-in-the-garage bull sessions to start seeing some potential. I vividly (sort of) recall saying to my friend (70 Chevelle, 68 GTO convertible 400/4-sp, 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4) "Look at those fenders. They're like freaking PONTOONS!". I've ranted and raved at various times about the US gov't killing off our cool cars. They helped (I'm being charitable with that word) kill horsepower, hardtops, convertibles, and carburetors. They are responsible for the huge bumpers that afflict our cars, and the onset of overweight, underpowered econo-poopsters. The automakers can share in the blame, but most of what they did in the late 70s and 80s was reactionary to what our gov't was requiring. Late 70s cars poorly built? Nothing new. Ask anyone who has restored a 60s car. We're not dealing with Aston Martins here, folks. American cars are line-built by regular, working dudes. More plastics and less heavy metals, a practice that continues to this day, were incorporated to lessen weight for better fuel mileage. Our cars are better designed than any that came before them, styling issues aside. Just like a new Charger, Camaro, Challenger or Mustang is a better car than ANY of it's namesake predecessors. Our cars are heavy? Mine's under 4000 lbs. Slow? Unworthy of the attention we lavish upon them? Not worth the time and/or money we put into them? Ask anybody with a fast A-body what they had to change. Most had to swap E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G. Spindly rear-ends (we got 8 1/4s), weak trans (mine's a 727), small bolt-pattern wheels, straight-6s or, at best, 318s. Got that covered too. What makes the junk made before 1974 so much better than the junk made after 1974? The short answer is, unless your one of the fortunate ones to have pigeonholed a TRUE musclecar, NOTHING. The following messege is to the car-show snobs: Theres more to the automotive hobby than just (insert the name of your pet piece-of-shit here). Not everybody who loves a car loves the same car YOU do. Next time you think your car is better, faster, worth more money, rarer, more desirable, cooler, or gets more chicks (and, in truth, it probably is, ya stroke-job), take a minute and find out what makes that 2nd or 3rd tier car-guy tick. You may just re-learn something about this hobby. Something that you can't learn at a Barrett-Jackson or Russo and Steele auction. That is: NOT what a car that was very similar to yours brought in when the gavel fell. But, instead, what every REAL car-guy knows; Its not WHAT you build, but how you build. Love yer family, hug yer junk. Jonny Y.
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01-25-2011, 01:57 AM (This post was last modified: 01-25-2011 02:04 AM by MAGNUM GT XS22L9R.)
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Poor White Boy & Jonnyuma

___Thanks, for the great Stories & Rants!
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03-24-2011, 12:28 AM
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Right on jonnyuma, you captured a feeling i share as well.


I live in Washington state. I bought my first 79 doba in 2004. I had just turned 18, literally the day before. I saw while driving by in my parent's car. It was parked font facing the old highway in a tiny dirt crap used car lot.
I didnt know what it was, but i knew i could legally sign a title. I went and poked around the car, it was instant and i knew i had to have it. I knew nothing of the problems that old cars could have, but i wanted something to wrench on and be cool like the guys in high school who's parents gave them original mustangs or chevelles.

That car served as a learning experience for me, painful and sometimes dangerous.
I ended up selling it for $50 after i got stalled trying to remove the lean burn and time the engine. I was 19 and seriously alone in the world of mopar. To this day i still dont know any older mopar heads who can give me the simple answers.
Thus began what defines my cordoba experience: doing research on the internet and reading parts books and just seeing what is available and what can be done. I learned to enjoy the fact that nobody has these cars in their magazines. They arent over advertized and comercialised like the barret jackson queens. Their little secret is that they can take all the same engines and parts as the 'cool' cars.

so after selling my first doba, i went a few years without. Something within me couldnt let go. While driving through rural areas where one might spot old hulk cars, i started really noticing cordobas and a longing came back, just a tickle at first, but it began to build.

Then it happened, eerily similar to the first time. Another old junker lot, another front flash of chrome while driving by. CHEAP on windshield. Braked. U-turned. pressed my face against the chain link fence between the car and myself.
I bought it the next day when they were open. $600.

This is what she looked like recently, having sat for a while since a friend drove his 79 f250 a little too close to my driver's side marker housing and it exploded.


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This is after a repaint, not a serious pro money job, but a decent cheaper job, gloss black with no clear coat but i had them do a few extra layers for buffing tolerance. Also had the windows tinted but just the legal max.
Unfortunatley this pic has the ugly spoke wheels that dont belong to this doba. I have a set of nice AR rally wheels with bfg R T/As.

Lucky for me this car had a NOS wiper cam link package rolling around in the trunk!!! unlucky for me i dont really know how its supposed to go together, i have no technical manuals for the doba. I have it set up to work but only using the one super important nipple piece, not the limiter cam. I kinda blip the switch if i need to wipe once or twice, i never let it run....

Shes got the 318, 90,xxx on the clock but who knows? I dont know how to read the VIN but this doba has to be the most basic model ive ever seen. Nothing is power interior, no AC, originally stock radio, doesnt even have a chronometer! (then how can we monitor the chronos!? chaos!)
And as the picture plainly shows, she never had a vinyl top.

Until i came here i didnt know about the Dodge magnum, and how it is essentially a sported up cordoba platform. Ironically enough my vision for this doba has been to take all the soft ride stuff out, down to the k frame mounts, and stiffen the whole suspension, put in firm feel steering and hop up the engine.

I could go on but i should save some for later. I'll be putting new pics up as i do upgrades.
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03-24-2011, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 03-24-2011 01:27 AM by MAGNUM GT XS22L9R.)
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Welcome, Great story! Take a pic of your vin tag & data plate located under the
hood on the drivers side inner fender and I'll break it down for you. Or if you like,
you can find the info yourself in Please Register or Login to view links. There you'll
find the codes for both. Mainly the same codes for Mags and Dobas.

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03-24-2011, 07:04 PM
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good story there lots of help here

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03-24-2011, 08:29 PM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2011 08:09 AM by MAGNUM GT XS22L9R.)
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Ive got some pics.

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Vin plate of the black 79.
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Blackie's engine compartment. Am i doing this right? (air cleaner lid upside down for more powah)Cool

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I got this dash from the local u-pull. it was brown. SEM portola red dye paint, didnt turn out the right shade, ill go more bright red next time.
i just noticed the little knick in the corner. my boot just tapped it a little hard maybe and it crumbled Huh

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i made this back seat to get some experience doing covers. Also the original interior was a fuzzy lined awful dust making mess.

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Im rolling the bucket leather seats out of whitey right now, for Cool in my daily driver. The driver's seat was redone at some point, not by me, and the leather isnt a good match. I'll be re-doing the interior myself and hope to do far better.

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Whitey, has an obvious extra option. Shes only 80k original miles with documents to prove it. I have all the trim thats missing in the picture, i just took a notion to strip her one day thinking i needed to trim my fleet.
Not really sure of where to go with this car, despite its obvious rarity t tops.
It has a much lower miles engine than my other, and i actually paid to have the 904 rebuilt when i blew the 1st and 2nd gear syncs after hossing the car around for a month post purchase with no service to the trans.
So im for sure pulling both these that and keeping it in case the black gives up the ghost.

Why am i not super stoked on fixing the t-top doba? Rust in the cowling area. In a wicked twist of irony she leaks not primarily via the t tops but from some seriously odd placed hole in the cowl, which was almost full of pine tree debris. The evergreen state will fowl your car drains if you arent a clean car person.
Shes also got rust on almost every caulked body seam. In the door and fender areas i have flaked it off with my hand in foot long sections. The firewall has rust on every joint and it looks innocent but its so meta-whatever that controlling it while keeping the car in a wet environment as i do will just be a painful losing battle.

So i guess you could say shes for sale, as a rolling chassis no engine but complete body. If i cant sell it when the time comes ill strip it of doors and fenders and value and have it scrapped.

I felt dirty typing that last part.

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03-24-2011, 08:58 PM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2011 08:13 AM by MAGNUM GT XS22L9R.)
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E57 - 360ci 2bbl
D33 - A999 A/Transmission
SS22- SS=Cordoba/22=2 Door B-pillar hardtop
K9R - K=360ci 2bbl engine/9=1979 year/R=Built in-Windsor, Ontario, Canada
219065 - ser#
TX9 - Black
TX9 - Black
328 - Built March 28th
A3B4 - A3=Type of seats/B4=Interior color
U - Built for the US
B10 - HD front disc brakes / Standard rear drums
28 - Large radiator
G51 - Left outside mirror (Chrome)
L31 - Turn signal indicators on fenders/hood
M25 - Sill moldings / type 1
N37 - Catalytic ESH system
N94 - ESA w/catalytic
W09 - Compact spare tire
END - End of codes

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Have one question for you? Are you being paid to post the site that your pictures
are being hosted???? Not really happy with this, as when I click the picture I get
spammed by the site! Don't be surprised if the links get removed if I get complants?!
I don't mind a small bit of promotion for the help of another site but, this seems a
little excessive? Had to cut some fat but, not all. Thanks

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03-24-2011, 10:57 PM
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I'm not affiliated with the image hosting site. I dont get popups when i visit it, im using firefox browser.

I can just attach the pics via forum in the future, i wanted to format it a bit more in this case.

Thanks for the help with the vin data.
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